Bobcats Sign Shaun Livingston


Shaun Livingston (Jose Argueta/Wizards Photos/

The Charlotte Bobcats signed free agent point guard Shaun Livingston to a two-year, $7 million dollar contract today.  Yahoo’s Adrian Wojnarowski is reporting that the Cats will hold a team option for a third season.  Here are links for the AP story and Bonnell’s for the Observer.

Livingston is best known for the horrific knee injury he sustained in 2007 while playing in his third season for the Los Angeles Clippers.  Sadly, getting to “S-h-a-u-n L-” in a google search gets you suggestions of “Shaun Livingston” followed by “Shaun Livingston injury”.

After coming into the league straight from high school and seeing limited playing time his first two years, the skinny, 6’7″ point guard had begun to fulfill his potential during the 2006-07 season, averaging 9 points and 5 assists in almost 30 minutes a game.

However, disaster struck on February 26, 2007 as the Clippers were hosting (ironically) the Bobcats.  After Raymond Felton made a clean challenge on his breakaway layup attempt, Livingston landed awkwardly.  His left knee buckled medially, shredding his ACL and PCL and completely dislocating the joint in the process.

I remember being up late watching that game and cringing.  Video is readily available on the internet, as is a particularly gruesome photo that’s worth seeking out if you’ve ever wondered what the distal end of your femur looked like.

Livingston spent the 2007-08 season out of basketball rehabbing.  Since then, he has bounced around from the Heat to the Grizzlies to the Thunder before winding up with the Wizards late last season.  It was there where Livingston seemed to get his groove back.  He played in 26 games down the stretch in Washington’s lost season, starting 18 while averaging 25 minutes, 9 points and 4.5 assists per game.

Prior to today’s signing, the Bulls had shown interest in Livingston this summer, while there was sentiment in Washington that he should be resigned to back up John Wall.

Livingston makes sense for Larry Brown.  Whether it’s horrific injuries or horrific off-the-court troubles, LB loves a reclamation project.  He also likes long players who see the court well.

And there’s no question that the Cats needed some point guard depth, but Livingston’s signing is curious nonetheless.  We now have two backup-quality point guards on the roster, both being paid backup (and not “end of the bench emergency third point guard”) money.  I don’t think it’s too pessimistic to say that we are in trouble if we enter this coming season with DJ and Livingston battling it out to be the starter, nor can we realistically afford to pay one of them what they are owed for being the third point guard.

What I’m trying to say is that I think Jordan is still in the market for a starting-caliber point guard, and that the writing may be on the wall for DJ here.  Just sayin…

And here’s a couple other tidbits before I hit the sack:

  • Here’s a quick note by Bonnell regarding a small hitch in how we can use Dampier’s contract in a subsequent trade.  Essentially, Dampier’s contract can be traded anytime, but it can’t be packaged with another player/contract for 60 days.
  • Larry Hughes says he’s talked to the Bobcats about returning, but that he’s “waiting for the right situation to come up.”  Replace “the right” with “any” and I think the statement will be more accurate…

-Dr. E

POLL : What Should Bobcats Do With Erick Dampier?

  • Waive & Save $13 Mill
    (16%, 35 Votes)
  • Waive & Resign
    (12%, 26 Votes)
  • Trade For Point Guard
    (55%, 124 Votes)
  • Trade For Draft Picks (17%, 39 Votes)

Total Voters: 224

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59 thoughts on “Bobcats Sign Shaun Livingston

  1. justin

    Dr. E…I’m assuming you won’t see this until morning, but the guys over at have been clinging to some info of a big trade(s) in the works, yet nothing has been disclosed yet of who we’d be dealing with and who would be involved (most speculation however seems to be around Paul and Roy coming here somehow, in exchange for Wallace, again speculation by the bloggers)…seems to have died down now though. I guess my question is, is this something to get excited about, or is this all for nothing. I”m realistic here and would love to see Paul, but seems unlikely to me. But this can’t be it from a PG perspective right? Also, not sure if you are familiar with the site…but the two guys that are mentioned as to saying they know something is going to happen soon…do you know anything about them? Blogs suggest they are part of the media. Just some thoughts before bed :)

  2. justin – yes, I’m aware of what went on in the comments section at RoF over the past couple days – quite wary of those commenters supposed “inside” info – at times felt a bit “hoaxy”, did it not? – but at the same time, it’s hard to look at the moves that are being made and not come to the conclusion that Jordan is trying to pull off a big move, so can’t blame anybody for wildly optimistic speculation – I’m just waiting, wondering, hoping like everyone else…

  3. Charlie

    Shaun livingston is going to be nice for our team because he is really good at breaking down zone defenses because of his height and penetration ability. Teams did run zone on bobcats at times last year and it worked, also Livingston could play on court same time with DJ if needed

  4. Blake

    oh well who cares its fun reading it honestly nobody cares if its a lie we just like excitement plus i dont think they are they would of spilled it by now but either way its exciting just to hear rumors and u kinda are being a downer haha


    "Inside Sources" tell me that the Bobcats are in discussions to send Eduardo Najera, Gana Diop and a carton of soured milk that's been sitting in a dead homeless man's shanty for a week to BOSTON for Rajon Rondo, Paul Pierce, '86 Bird-McHale-Parish, Tom Brady and '67 Triple Crown winner Carl Yastrzemski.

  6. Justin

    Good one ASChin :) Personally, I still think something big can happen…but not that big. No way we get both Paul and Roy…I still think Paul is a possibility given his situation, but a slim one at best. I honestly don't believe Livingston and DJ go into the season competing for the starting job. I think DJ, Diaw and Dampier's contract will be dealt for something…but we'll see.

  7. Jordan


    r u a insider like u kno alot of people tht work for the bobcats or r u just a big fan tht knows alot and follows everything 24/7. because i thought u said u were an insider but i couldnt tell

  8. (Michael?) Jordan-

    Insider? Me? Heck no. With all the head scratching roster decisions that the Bobcats make they shouldn't have "Insiders" but rather "Whistleblowers."

    (cue up the backlight silhouette and distorted voice processor).

    But I do have "InsideSources"!!! Speaking of which:

    BREAKING: Bobcats on verge of trading Gerald Henderson and conditional second round draft pick to PITTSBURGH for Sydney Crosby, Mario Lemiux, '78 Steelers and Willie Stargell. InsideSources insist that trade won't go down unless Charlotte includes Nazr Mohammed's expiring contract in the deal.

  9. Tyler

    okay so everyon in the observer is saying tht we have no way to make the team better with Dampiers contract so is this true or wat?

  10. David over at RoF can’t come out and say it (either because he’s a nice guy or because he’s digging the extra traffic) so I’ll say it here: These “Insiders” are full of fecal matter.

    Think about it, if you had inside information why would you leak it on a fan blog? Why not sell it to another team or exchange info with the traditional media. These blogs are about one thing and one thing only: Basketball Nerds aka Uber-Fans.

    We don’t have the tough job of an actual journalist (like Rick Bonnell) who has to go out and cultivate a real network of league sources and accredited journalists while relaying information based solely on “facts” and not speculation or opinion.
    We blog because it’s fun and by fabricating a false “Insider” identity, some have crossed the fine line between “Basketball Nerd” and “Creepy Basketball Nerd.”

    As for Livingston, it’s hard to believe that the Bobcats won’t bring at least one more starter-caliber player into the mix before training camp. Jordan knows that the Conference is getting better by the day and that he can’t stand around while other teams upgrade. Meanwhile, Shaun Livingston is an intriguing prospect as a backup PG and should help the Bobcats tremendously when matched up against teams like the Bulls (D.Rose) or Heat (LeBron in PG-mode).

  11. Blake-

    Who says I’m being a Debbie (“coulda used this food at the Superdome…”) Downer???

    Imagine if I posted something stating “Bobcats on the verge of Gana Diop/Kevin Durant trade…inside sources tell me that Thunder GM Sam Presti nearly choked to death on a hardened piece of gnocchi last evening and after suffering a mild stroke and subsequent brain damage is in discussion with Bobcats general manager Rod Higgins on a possible Gana Diop – Durant deal…” ???

    Cheap pop. To paraphrase Tony Soprano, “‘I’m an Insider’ is the lowest form of conversation!”

  12. Charlie

    The observer writers state facts then opinion just as we do, so believing them when they said that his contract wont make us better is absurd. One, Dampier is better than Chandler anyway, great rebounder and good shot blocker, and better on offense than Chandler. However he can only be traded by himself until 60 days from date he was traded from Dallas. A $13 million contract can get you two good players or one all star from team needed cap relief. In perspective Dampier's contract could get you two Stephen Jackson's last year.. There is alot of things the Bobcats can do with his and only his contract(and himself), however the teams shredding players for cap relief seems to be completed because the monstars have chosen where they want to go. Lets hope that there is another team out there still wanting to such as the Pacers or Clips or Hawks. By end of summer both Dampier and Diaw will be gone so there is alot to expect transaction wise from the Bobcats.

  13. RobC

    Tyler that is not true. The only issue is that Dampier contracts needs to be traded on its own.


    The Bobcats can trade Dampiers ($13M) expiring contract to Cleveland for Mo Williams ($9M) and Delonte West ($4M – $500K guaranteed). Then in a second trade with the same team, Bobcats send Gana Diop ($6.5M) for Anderson Varejao ($7.5M).

    Te same can be said but trading Dampier to Washington for Arenas

    and then in a second trade, sending Diop to Washington for McGee.

    Both trades will work, since all teams are currently under the Cap, however, if the Bobcats weren't under the Cap, the Cleveland deal could be the only possibility.

  14. RobC

    Well the trade with Cleveland can happen, but the Bobcats would need to include one more player and the release Delonte West. Otherwise the team will be over the Cap. The deal with Washington, is quite similar, however, it could be done by being only $2-3M over the Cap (unless they can trade to make some Cap room between now and February). On the other hand, that trade could potentially make the Bobcats Championship Contenders if things work out, and we all know that is the only reason Jordan said he would be willing to pay the Luxury Tax.

  15. Tyler

    -robc i think i saw in the observer comments u said tht and then one dude said tht cnt happen and i would love tht trade though

  16. Justin

    Guys, I know there’s alot of speculation around Chris Paul, and whether or not NO would trade him. With the recent departure of Jeff Bower, it sounds like he was the one putting Paul out there on the trade market….therefore the reason why he was fired. That tells me that Paul isn’t getting traded, unless he forces the Hornets hand. Hate to say it…but just my thought after mulling thru all the sites and rumors this past week.

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